http://www.magnacartabarons.info Thu, 03 Sep 2015 22:00:21 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 http://www.magnacartabarons.info/index.php/the-barons/say-geoffrey-de/#comment-82346 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:45:56 +0000 http://www.magnacartabarons.info/?page_id=61#comment-82346 Hallo Steve, they were cousins, hence the same family and shared arms. Geoffrey’s is sometimes shown with an Escarbuncle of eight Rays floretty Sable, but Matthew Paris (the earliest or most reliable description) omits the Escarbuncle. Kind regards, Peter

]]> http://www.magnacartabarons.info/index.php/the-barons/say-geoffrey-de/#comment-82295 Sun, 31 May 2015 12:25:22 +0000 http://www.magnacartabarons.info/?page_id=61#comment-82295 I have a small interest in heraldry which comes from painting metal knight figures. I would like to know why de say has the same coat of arms as de Mandeville? regards steve

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